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	<description>Hi, I&#039;m Ian Truscott here are a few of my thoughts about our industry, content management and engaging over the web…</description>
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		<title>By: sliewehr</title>
		<link>http://www.iantruscott.me/taking-the-w-out-of-cms/comment-page-1#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>sliewehr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 04:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just got around to reading this&#8230; Shouldn&#8217;t have waited. More good stuff by @IanTruscott &lt;a href=&quot;http://is.gd/dcc3K&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://is.gd/dcc3K&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got around to reading this&#8230; Shouldn&#8217;t have waited. More good stuff by @IanTruscott <a href="http://is.gd/dcc3K" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/dcc3K</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.iantruscott.me/taking-the-w-out-of-cms/comment-page-1#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment Vern, I&#039;m still figuring out where I sit on talking about vendors here since joining Gilbane, but right now it isn&#039;t my intention to comment on individual vendors on this blog.

My observation is of a general trend of a multi-channel/touch point relevance engine between the CMS and the content consumer that I have called the Engagement Tier. I don&#039;t necessarily agree with your &#039;only way&#039; observation, as I think this could be at least partially delivered by a software solution where you can draw a clear line between the consumer and the back-end CMS and I only say &#039;partially&#039; in this context as you can throw e-mail, call centres and print marketing into that mix that require specialist tools.

Our expectation on the web experience part of this engagement is &lt;em&gt;super&lt;/em&gt; dynamic, I think there are plenty of ways of delivering that and it&#039;s my pleasure to be seeing a number of those right now.

Anyway - in the old days we used to talk about baking/frying with these models - today&#039;s content consumer wants it fresh caught that day, prepared their way and hot off the griddle, teppanyaki style.

Really appreciate you reading Vern and your contribution.

Cheers!

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment Vern, I&#8217;m still figuring out where I sit on talking about vendors here since joining Gilbane, but right now it isn&#8217;t my intention to comment on individual vendors on this blog.</p>
<p>My observation is of a general trend of a multi-channel/touch point relevance engine between the CMS and the content consumer that I have called the Engagement Tier. I don&#8217;t necessarily agree with your &#8216;only way&#8217; observation, as I think this could be at least partially delivered by a software solution where you can draw a clear line between the consumer and the back-end CMS and I only say &#8216;partially&#8217; in this context as you can throw e-mail, call centres and print marketing into that mix that require specialist tools.</p>
<p>Our expectation on the web experience part of this engagement is <em>super</em> dynamic, I think there are plenty of ways of delivering that and it&#8217;s my pleasure to be seeing a number of those right now.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; in the old days we used to talk about baking/frying with these models &#8211; today&#8217;s content consumer wants it fresh caught that day, prepared their way and hot off the griddle, teppanyaki style.</p>
<p>Really appreciate you reading Vern and your contribution.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>By: VernPercussion</title>
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		<dc:creator>VernPercussion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You raise a ton of great points.  One more to add is that it IS possible to be a &quot;strongly W focused&quot; WCM system AND still be decoupled from the delivery or engagement tiers.

The W in WCM (rather than CMS or ECM) means the system is about marketers optimizing online customer engagements.  Decoupling simply allows marketers to think about those customer interactions independent from any one Site or channel.

In fact, I believe decoupling is the only way to really embrace the Social Web - the two way conversation.  Decoupling separates content &quot;sources&quot; from &quot;targets&quot; so that edits can be made and flow through regardless of where the point of interaction occurred (you site, their site, some other social media channel).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You raise a ton of great points.  One more to add is that it IS possible to be a &#8220;strongly W focused&#8221; WCM system AND still be decoupled from the delivery or engagement tiers.</p>
<p>The W in WCM (rather than CMS or ECM) means the system is about marketers optimizing online customer engagements.  Decoupling simply allows marketers to think about those customer interactions independent from any one Site or channel.</p>
<p>In fact, I believe decoupling is the only way to really embrace the Social Web &#8211; the two way conversation.  Decoupling separates content &#8220;sources&#8221; from &#8220;targets&#8221; so that edits can be made and flow through regardless of where the point of interaction occurred (you site, their site, some other social media channel).</p>
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		<title>By: piewords</title>
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		<dc:creator>piewords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 13:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good directions to go from here. RT @IanTruscott: Thoughts on separating #CMS from the delivery/engagement tier: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/cvN04p&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/cvN04p&lt;/a&gt; #ecm&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good directions to go from here. RT @IanTruscott: Thoughts on separating #CMS from the delivery/engagement tier: <a href="http://bit.ly/cvN04p" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cvN04p</a> #ecm</p>
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		<title>By: IanTruscott</title>
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		<dc:creator>IanTruscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks @pmonks @ldallasBMOC @JWvanWessel for RT&#8217;ing &#8220;Taking the W out of CMS&#8221; on CMS/delivery/engagement separation &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/cvN04p&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/cvN04p&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks @pmonks @ldallasBMOC @JWvanWessel for RT&#8217;ing &#8220;Taking the W out of CMS&#8221; on CMS/delivery/engagement separation <a href="http://bit.ly/cvN04p" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cvN04p</a></p>
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		<title>By: JWvanWessel</title>
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		<dc:creator>JWvanWessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Goed artikel van @iantruscott over wat wij Content Integratie zouden noemen: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/bbRllt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/bbRllt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goed artikel van @iantruscott over wat wij Content Integratie zouden noemen: <a href="http://bit.ly/bbRllt" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bbRllt</a></p>
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		<title>By: ldallasBMOC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ldallasBMOC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 02:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@IanTruscott:&#8221;Thoughts on separating CMS from delivery/engagement : &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/cvN04p&amp;#8221&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/cvN04p&amp;#8221&lt;/a&gt;; /if only ECM vendors had this right the 1st time&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@IanTruscott:&#8221;Thoughts on separating CMS from delivery/engagement : <a href="http://bit.ly/cvN04p&#8221" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cvN04p&#038;#8221</a>; /if only ECM vendors had this right the 1st time</p>
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		<title>By: pmonks</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmonks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 00:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gold from @IanTruscott: &#8220;Taking the W out of CMS &#8211; my thoughts on separating CMS from delivery/engagement: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/cvN04p&amp;#8221&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/cvN04p&amp;#8221&lt;/a&gt;; #wcm #cms&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gold from @IanTruscott: &#8220;Taking the W out of CMS &#8211; my thoughts on separating CMS from delivery/engagement: <a href="http://bit.ly/cvN04p&#8221" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cvN04p&#038;#8221</a>; #wcm #cms</p>
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